I'm not sure if this is the place to give advices but I'll do it anyway.
to 345i: Are those HP on wheels or on engine? Did you do any tuning till now?
The easiest way to have more HP is to change boost control chip whic is in car ECU. Othervise you can't have higher boost than 0.7. Those stock engines are capable to have 1..0-1.2 bar boost with the stock KKK27 turbo. If you reach this boost you will have 320-340 hp on wheels which 370-380 hp on the crank. A lot of 745i drivers are talking about higher HP but I have 2 of those cars and I can asure you that is very hard to get more than 340 HP with stock turbo. I have Holset HX40 turbo which is larger and on 1.2-1.4 bar boost it gives me 380-390 RWHP...
With this chip you will need mechanical boost control device and a new petrol pressure regulator because you will need more fuel. With the standard pressure regulator you always have 2.5 bar of fuel pressure which is not enough for 1.0 bar boost.
2 everyone: I forgot to ask, do you use slick tires or you have to use DOT tires on races?
The owner of Ascona is my team mate and friend. It has 3.6 Lotus engine from Lotus Omegas which has in stock 377 hp but in this case it has 500+ hp + 75 hp nitro shot... his best Croatian time was 11.5 so it means that his best ET was 10.9. The only problem with this car is that it can't put all the power to the ground. It's too light at the rear. He had put very wide MT tires, Volvo rear axle, some more links on the rear but that's about it. It has too much wheel spin in 1st and 2ng gear and sometimes in 3rd gear.
thanx for helping me and clearing up all the confusions... I've learned something new...
I don't know my trap speed because we never get the time slip after the race.... they measure trap speed but I never asked which is mine...
now I'll try to find some more links and try to upload some more photos...
sorry for confusing you but that is how it is in Croatia. But I think that you understood.
In our competition it works like this: we have a pro tree but the lights turn on one by one... first yelow than after 0.5 sec second yellow than after 0.5 sec 3rd and after 0.5 sec green light... so if you start 0.4 sec after 3rd yelow lights on than you have a red light but if you start after 0.501 sec it's a perfect... the thing is that those 0.5 seconds are calculated in the ET plus a reaction time which you have when you start. I hope that you understood that our measuring time starts after 3rd yellow lights on. And the only time which we compare in croatia is that total time, from the start measuring till you stop the time when you cross photocells at the finish line. In that case I can say that my best ET in hungary would be 0.7 sec lower than I have in Croatia. In Croatia my best time is 12.44 with the reaction time of 0.7 so in your country that ET would be 11.74... wow, I've just realised that I have very fast car ... I would have a chance in your championship...with Golf and with Citroen... here are some pics of my cars...
I saw that one slovenian guy which is also driving Croatian championship (Gregor Tus with Honda civic) has best ET time 12.1 but in Croatia he never had lower than 12.5. I also saw that his reaction times are 0.2 or 0.3 but in Croatia if you have reaction time lower than 0.5 it means that you hit the red light and you are disqualified. My reaction time is usually around 0.8 and with that reaction I had ET 12.6 so it means that actual time of the car is 12.3. The oponent in that race had ET 12.5 so he won. But he had only better start because he had better reaction time which was 0.6. So it means that his car time was 12.4. As you can see we are in Croatia calculating the total time of the car + 0.5. I supose that you have very similar. You are calculating total car time + reaction time which can be 0.1? So if the car time is 12.1 and reaction time is 0.3 the total ET is 12.4. Am I right? If that is true, Croatian vehicles can be 0.5 seconds faster in your championship.
Our fastest car is Audi S2 station wagon which had 10.6 alltogether with the reaction time. My golf with two engines had the record for almost year and a half and it was 11.4. This year the record was hit at least 4-5 times.
We also have one Corsa with Audi V6 2.7 engine which is at the back of the car. His time was 11.05. One guy from serbia has an Audi S4 with the same angine but it's 4x4. His time is 11.1. Than we came with our golf which had a lot of problems with automatic gearboxes so our best time was 11.3. Next year we will have one Chevy Malibu with 1000 hp, one S2 with 800 hp. He drove one race last year but he hit the red light. But on that run he had 11.0 ET. I think that this car can go low 10 sec acording to the croatian timing. I think that next year we will have 3-4 cars in 10 sec. I hope that I will get 11 sec with my car.
Yes the prices in Croatia are quite OK but the thing is that you have to pay 50 euro if you wanna race. So the drivers are "collecting" the price money beetween ourselves. The organisation is taking the money from the visitors and the winners are dividing the money which we payed for the race. Example: if you have 100 cars in the race, it means that the price money is 5000 euro. You have 7 categories so it means that the winner in each category will get 715 euro. The 2nd and 3rd place will get nothing. Only in Zagreb and Rijeka you have over 100 drivers. On the other races you have cca 80 cars. The final cahampionship money is from the sponsors. And as I told you before, half of the prise is in cash and the other half is in sponsor items.
Last year we had 11 races but sometimes in one weekend we had 2 races (zagreb, Rijeka, Varazdin and Banja Luka-Bosnia). Slovenj Gradec (Slovenia), Beograd (Serbia) and Mostar (Bosnia) there was only one race.
Later I will upload some photos...
I forgot to writte something about my car... the "outside" is Citroen 2CV6 from 1975 which you all know by the name "the duck" but under the hood is 3.5 l BMW with holset HX 40 turbo and nitro.. I have 300 hp on the wheels on 0.8 bars but I can run it up to 1.5 bar... the problem is with the traction.. if I put 1.0 bar boost than my wheels are spining in 2nd gear and I am all over the track... I have BMW 325 suspension, M3 diff, 733i 4 gears gearbox, forged JE pistons, SPEC stage 4 clutch, aquamist... so the car only looks like the duck but it's actually BMW... so only thing what I have to do for the next year is to work on the traction... I have plan wider MT tires, stiffer struts, lighten up the front part and so on... I think that this car is capable for mid 11's... and yes, the car is very heavy... it has 1100 kg... a lot of iron was spent on the chassis...
There are a lot of info of my car on the web but everything is on Croatian... I don't have my own web page... if you want I can upload some of the pics over here... and don't hesitate if you have any questions...
and yes, one more question... how do you measure ET? Does the measuring starts when the green light turns on on or when you cross the sensors? Do you have reaction time?
thanks for the info, you helped a lot... I think that I will not stand a chance in your championship...
In Croatia we have 7 categories which are devided by the time which you achieve during the 1st free run. So if I have 15.5 time on this first training than I will be in the 15 sec category and my first race would be against somebody which has time 15.9. In each category you have the same points. The winning is 15 pts, 2nd place is 12 pts, 3rd place is 10, 4th place is 8 and than 6,5 4,3,2,1... so the overall winner of championship can be somebody which is driving in 15 sec catogory. Of course, the best chance have cars in very fast categories but it can happen that somebody else take the championship. We had 160 competitors during the season and was 6th with my "duck" but I have 2 more cars. One is Golf II with twin VR6 engines with nitro. So each engine has 350 hp which means that both of them have 700 hp... That car finished 2nd in the championship. The driver of that car was one of my employes. The third car which I owe is BMW 745i from 1977. Actually the engine is from 1984. All three cars are very fast and very popular in Croatia. The BMW's best time is 12.7, the Golf best time was 11.1, the best time of Citroen 2CV6 which I sdrive was 12.4. The problem in Croatia, Serbia, Bosnia and Slovenia, where we drive is that we dont have good tracks so If you have very strong rear wheel drive you need to have perfect suspension and veeeery wide tires or you will lose at least a second or maybe more. How are the tracks in Hungary? Do you use VHT or not? What are the prices? In Croatia is like this: if you win at the race you will get cca 500-800 euro... it depends on how much drivers you have on the race... for the overall champion at the end of the season you will get 8.000 euro but half of the price will be in items (tires, gadgets, struts, etc...) ... the second place you will get 4.000 euro, half of that will be in items... third place is 2.000... but we also have a team chanpionship... in each team there are three cars and we took 1st place this year among 25 teams... the price for the 1st place team is 2.000 euro... so this year I won 6.000 euro at the end and 2.500 euro for the winings which as not so bad compering to the other automotor sports in Croatia... I have found a lot of hungarian sites of drag racing but all of them are on Hungarian... So here is the only forum where I can find some more info... for the next year we are preparing some more cars... maybe we will get more money from our sponsors and maybe we will go to Hungary on some races, King of Europe or somewhere else... that is why I have so many questions... or maybe I will see some of you in Croatia... that would be very nice....
hi people... I'm new here so I have few questions... can anybody tell me where can I find more info about hungarian drag racing? about the rules... can I drive with my car in Hungary? I have Citroen 2CV6 with 6 cilinder BMW turbo engine...it's RWD... thanks...
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I'm not sure if this is the place to give advices but I'll do it anyway.
to 345i: Are those HP on wheels or on engine? Did you do any tuning till now?
The easiest way to have more HP is to change boost control chip whic is in car ECU. Othervise you can't have higher boost than 0.7. Those stock engines are capable to have 1..0-1.2 bar boost with the stock KKK27 turbo. If you reach this boost you will have 320-340 hp on wheels which 370-380 hp on the crank. A lot of 745i drivers are talking about higher HP but I have 2 of those cars and I can asure you that is very hard to get more than 340 HP with stock turbo. I have Holset HX40 turbo which is larger and on 1.2-1.4 bar boost it gives me 380-390 RWHP...
With this chip you will need mechanical boost control device and a new petrol pressure regulator because you will need more fuel. With the standard pressure regulator you always have 2.5 bar of fuel pressure which is not enough for 1.0 bar boost.
2 everyone: I forgot to ask, do you use slick tires or you have to use DOT tires on races?